Comments on: Are Bicycle Victoria incompetent or merely complacent?

By: Mr Commuter

Mr Commuter — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 22:58:22 +0000

I think BV got it right. I don’t support it on country trains but I do on suburban lines. This ban only affects a handful of people and it’s selfish and inconveniences others. Think about someone other than yourself for a change.

By: ChrisS

ChrisS — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 09:10:59 +0000

“Obviously grounds for Brianna to start, what seems quite obviously like making stuff up to try and validate a predisposed assumption.”

As Dr Spock would say, fascinating.

This discussion has stemmed from what people have been informed by BV. And hasn’t BV, DOI and Lynne Kosky done a lovely job of clarifying the matter?

No, they haven’t and hence why people are openly questioning the decision and motives for over a month.

As you have singled out a individual for apparently “making stuff up”, isn’t it the pot calling the kettle black when at the end of your comment by applying the very same subjective perspection and singling out Harry Barber for criticism?

Sure everyone’s got a story or several about Mr Barber, but how about applying insight and intelligence to the matter and viewing BV’s disconnect with the cycling community as a long-running dysfunction that many people involved with BV have knowingly been complicit in, not just one person. Sure Mr Barber is a interesting individual, but he didn’t do it all himself.

By: ChrisW

ChrisW — Sat, 26 Jan 2008 07:12:51 +0000

“I joined BV some months ago”. Obviously grounds for Brianna to start, what seems quite obviously like making stuff up to try and validate a predisposed assumption.
Amongst those of us who have been around for a little longer than 5 minutes, it is known that these scenarios are not a whine-fest for instant gratification. Campaigns, especially against an organisation such as Dept of Infrastructure who have a long history of not only being arrogant but most usually ignorant of the ‘real world’, are a marathon.
BV most certainly mishandled, and probably misjudged people’s anger over this one (only 100 people being affected?!?!) but they do have to keep the longterm relationships with these pricks, because we need them (DoI, to do their job) more than they need us.
Listen again to the RRR interview. It sounds alot like a BV staffer (put in a bad situation) agreeing with riders and yet again confirming the one thing that is wrong with BV is… drum roll please… Harry Barber.
PS many are rolling out the ‘BV only do events’ line. Partly true, but then again what do other state org’s do? What is Amy’s Ride?
Moral: Target Harry, not BV.

By: Kerry

Kerry — Fri, 25 Jan 2008 03:22:46 +0000

BV are obviously used to putting on lovely, fun events and producing maps, both of which generates lots of lovel, positive PR.

However, now that cycling is a serious commuter option I don’t think BV realise that we the cycling community expect them to be a little more serious…

Come on BV – show us that you are more than just nice window dressing.

By: Rob

Rob — Thu, 24 Jan 2008 09:32:18 +0000

What good is a secure bike cage going to do me? I need my bike to get to work at the other end!

If V/Line would get rid of that obsolete silver box piece of crap train they insist on running for the first afternoon peak hour service from Melbourne to Geelong, 90% of their problem would be solved right there. That is the only train I have been on, in over two years of daily bike + train commuting, where bikes cause any kind of problem, simply because there is nowhere at all to put them anywhere on that train.

By: Bradley

Bradley — Wed, 23 Jan 2008 23:21:44 +0000

Bicycle Victoria actually told me (and I quote): ‘we don’t represent your interests in this issue’.

They informed me that they are only pushing for bike cages as this is the only area they see a benefit in and do not represent any other combination of bikes and trains.

By: Geoff

Geoff — Wed, 23 Jan 2008 02:07:35 +0000

Are Bicycle Victoria incompetent or merely complacent? A little from column A… And a little from column B. Thanks to BintheBikeBan folks for awesome work over the last few weeks. Lets keep it up – its not quite over yet.