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	<title>Comments on: Cyclists call for V/Line ban to be lifted</title>
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	<description>Protesting the ban on bicycles on peak-hour trains in Victoria</description>
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		<title>By: Bin the bike ban! &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Media coverage upate</title>
		<link>http://modernthings.org/binthebikeban/2008/01/14/cyclists-call-for-vline-ban-to-be-lifted/comment-page-1/#comment-49</link>
		<dc:creator>Bin the bike ban! &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Media coverage upate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 18:01:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Bike tales of the ad hocracy, opinion piece by Bruce Lindsay, convenor of the Geelong Greens. (2008-01-15) Geelong Advertiser (This is a follow up to their story Cyclists call for V/Line ban to be lifted). [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Bike tales of the ad hocracy, opinion piece by Bruce Lindsay, convenor of the Geelong Greens. (2008-01-15) Geelong Advertiser (This is a follow up to their story Cyclists call for V/Line ban to be lifted). [...]</p>
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		<title>By: pfctdayelise</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 17:44:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I learned a new word to describe this the other day: &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adhocracy&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;adhocracy&lt;/a&gt;, AKA &quot;making it up as we go along&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I learned a new word to describe this the other day: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adhocracy" rel="nofollow">adhocracy</a>, AKA &#8220;making it up as we go along&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Gabrielle Alexander</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gabrielle Alexander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 06:30:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The office of Greg Barber MLC has done some research about the regulations which can be found at http://www.gazette.vic.gov.au/Gazettes2007/GG2007S362.pdf (Go to page 58)

It is worth noting that at this stage, while transport officers can refuse to take your bike on-board, they do not have the power to fine you for carrying a bicycle on a train. For this to happen, another executive order must be given (by the Director of Public Transport) and tabled in the Gazette. This will no doubt occur in time, but at this stage there is no ability of transport officers to fine you.

Unfortunately these regulations are NOT of the type that can be disallowed by parliament. It is purely up to the discretion of the Director of Public Transport to make these rules.

There is a cloud of confusion surrounding these new regulations, because V-line are saying they will not take bicycles, but according to the Gazette, it is only on V-Line COACHES that this restriction applies. There has yet to be a coherent message presented to the public by the Brumby government.

Greg has indicated he is keen to speak on this when parliament resumes and to take part in any public protest events. I therefore encourage people involved in campaigns regarding this issue to keep his office informed on any developments. (details are below)

Greg Barber Victorian Greens MLC

Northern Metropolitan Region

Suite G-01 60 Leicester Street Carlton VIC 3053

P: 03 9348 2622

F: 03 9348 2699

E: greg.barber@parliament.vic.gov.au

Alternatively you can contact the Victorian Greens State Office by emailing office@vic.greens.org.au or phoning 9602 1141.

We look forward to hearing from you.

Regards

Gabrielle Alexander
Office Coordinator
Australian Greens Victoria</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The office of Greg Barber MLC has done some research about the regulations which can be found at <a href="http://www.gazette.vic.gov.au/Gazettes2007/GG2007S362.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.gazette.vic.gov.au/Gazettes2007/GG2007S362.pdf</a> (Go to page 58)</p>
<p>It is worth noting that at this stage, while transport officers can refuse to take your bike on-board, they do not have the power to fine you for carrying a bicycle on a train. For this to happen, another executive order must be given (by the Director of Public Transport) and tabled in the Gazette. This will no doubt occur in time, but at this stage there is no ability of transport officers to fine you.</p>
<p>Unfortunately these regulations are NOT of the type that can be disallowed by parliament. It is purely up to the discretion of the Director of Public Transport to make these rules.</p>
<p>There is a cloud of confusion surrounding these new regulations, because V-line are saying they will not take bicycles, but according to the Gazette, it is only on V-Line COACHES that this restriction applies. There has yet to be a coherent message presented to the public by the Brumby government.</p>
<p>Greg has indicated he is keen to speak on this when parliament resumes and to take part in any public protest events. I therefore encourage people involved in campaigns regarding this issue to keep his office informed on any developments. (details are below)</p>
<p>Greg Barber Victorian Greens MLC</p>
<p>Northern Metropolitan Region</p>
<p>Suite G-01 60 Leicester Street Carlton VIC 3053</p>
<p>P: 03 9348 2622</p>
<p>F: 03 9348 2699</p>
<p>E: <a href="mailto:greg.barber@parliament.vic.gov.au">greg.barber@parliament.vic.gov.au</a></p>
<p>Alternatively you can contact the Victorian Greens State Office by emailing <a href="mailto:office@vic.greens.org.au">office@vic.greens.org.au</a> or phoning 9602 1141.</p>
<p>We look forward to hearing from you.</p>
<p>Regards</p>
<p>Gabrielle Alexander<br />
Office Coordinator<br />
Australian Greens Victoria</p>
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